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E. Ndayishimiye: “We aren’t afraid that the UN Excessive Commissioner for Human Rights will come to Burundi”

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The Neighborhood of East African States (EAC) is at the moment energetic in attempting to calm tensions between Congolese and Rwandans over the M23 assaults in jap DRC. Burundi at the moment chairs the East African group. To take inventory of the regional context, in addition to the difficulty of human rights in Burundi, RFI and France 24 are internet hosting Burundian President Évariste Ndayishimiye. He solutions questions from Marc Perelman and Laurent Correau.

Marc Perelman: You at the moment maintain the rotating presidency of the East African Neighborhood (EAC). One in all your targets is to attempt to ease tensions between Rwanda and the DRC. We will see that the state of affairs stays very tense on the bottom. Do you suppose that the situations for a negotiation are met this present day? ?

Evariste Ndayishimiye : I am unable to say that we’re distant. Somewhat, we’re forward as a result of to start with, on the query of dialogue and reconciliation between States, rapprochement is firstly a step. Agree to sit down collectively. In order that I take into account that there’s a step ahead, a major step ahead. There have been many conferences and I additionally noticed that the worldwide neighborhood was very conscious of this course of, in order that we will discover peace on this area.

Laurent Correau: However is the Congolese authorities rightly accusing the Rwandan authorities of supporting the M23? ?

IN. : Till now, we have now not but determined on the degree of the area or myself, however we’re planning a session assembly with the facilitator of this battle, the Angolan president [Joao Lourenço, NDLR]we’ll nonetheless have the chance to research and see the fact of issues.

MP: You’re calling on the worldwide neighborhood to return and provide help to, to speculate. However, for instance, budgetary help from the European Union has nonetheless not been launched. There are at all times disagreements on the roadmap. Why ? And can you quickly hope for an settlement on this topic?

IN. : I consider there is no such thing as a disagreement. We’re extra within the dialogue to see during which space they will assist.

MP: When will there be this settlement with the European Union?

IN. : When you’re [autour] a desk, you do not know when the assembly goes to finish. However what’s fascinating is that everybody is attracted and we virtually converse the identical language. We go collectively, and we’ll succeed collectively too.

LC: At its final assembly, the UN Human Rights Council adopted a decision during which it condemns what it calls “ widespread impunity for all human rights violations in your nation. It calls in your authorities to make sure that all these concerned in such violations, whether or not they’re members of the protection and safety forces or members of the occasion’s youth motion, the Imbonerakure, are held accountable for his or her actions. Is that this a request to which you might be prepared to reply as head of state?

IN. : If we discuss this youth, the Imbonerakure: in the present day, all of the younger individuals of the nation are mobilized in the direction of improvement. I set up retreats for younger intellectuals, not less than twice every week…

Évariste Ndayishimiye, President of Burundi, throughout his interview with RFI and France 24, on the sidelines of the Francophonie summit in Djerba, Tunisia. © RFI

LC: However you dispute the extent of the human rights violations denounced by this fee?

IN.: No, actually, till now, I have never been proven the place there was a violation of human rights. I do know there may be not an individual who commits against the law and goes unpunished. And actually, there, I put myself at it. You understand, I’ve made obtainable to all residents my phone quantity, my WhatsApp quantity, that’s, each time there’s a violation of human rights, in every single place, at all times, they report and I’ve to comply with up. What can the outsider know that I do not know? I believe they’re detractors doing counter-propaganda.

LC: Are you prepared, then, to welcome the observer from the UN Fee on Human Rights in order that he can see all this himself in Burundi? ?

IN. : I do not know in case you listened to my speech on the United Nations Normal Meeting. Due to these individuals, who wish to make biased reviews, I requested the United Nations Excessive Commissioner for Human Rights to return to Burundi in order that we sit down collectively, with a purpose to analyze the state of affairs collectively , and see what we will do to additional enhance the safety of human rights. So we’re not afraid that the Workplace of the Excessive Commissioner for Human Rights will come to Burundi and that we will talk about methods to handle human rights points in my nation.


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